Topic: Who you gonna call?

Because there's no response of Kony, I'll give my answer...

I'd call the ghostbusters, because they are hot, and after getting rid of the invisible-ghost-man maybe I'd give them a special gift, if you know what I mean...

Sakura: 1/2

Now you are grasping at straws. The whole situation was described as "Invisible man's sleepin' in your bed.". What exactly in those few words indicates "it's not human invisible man everyone has heard of, it's spirit/ghost invisible man completely unknown to us except hymen"?

Definition of ghost: "ghost is the soul or spirit of a deceased person, taken to be capable of appearing in visible form or otherwise manifesting itself to the living. Descriptions of the apparition of ghosts vary widely: the mode of manifestation can range from an invisible presence to translucent or wispy shapes, to realistic, life-like visions." - that clearly indicates that all ghosts/spirits are INcorporeal, some more visible, some completely invisible, with limited means of affecting physical world (even poltergeists are incorporeal), while your invisible man is completely corporeal, yet somehow spirit.

Sakura/Belldandy/Lala: I recognize strength of most of Hymen's arguments and counter-arguments, but this one was kinda weak. How could you give him so many points for this one?



Update: Different timezones! We are not awake during same time, you should be more patient and wait more for responses. I know that I would.
Edited by ☠ kony83 [⊊] on 7/30/10 at 6:35:30 pm

I assumed it was a given, since it was a quote from the Ghostbusters theme. It's not my fault if you didn't catch the reference.

"taken to be capable of appearing in visible form or otherwise manifesting itself to the living."

A visual manifestation is not the only possibility. There are four other senses with which to perceive the presence of a spirit. Banshees wail, but are not always seen. And how is a poltergeist able to move and lift objects without any sort of corporeality?



PS You're taking Sakura's scorekeeping way too seriously.
Edited by Hymen [⊊] on 7/30/10 at 6:48:39 pm

So that's your big argument? "Sure, ghost/spirit invisible man appears only in theme song for 26 years old movie, there is no other reference about him in folklore, fiction, philosophy, or popular culture, and since what we know about him is summed up in one short and very vague sentence, I had to deduce a lot of facts about him, but I expect everyone to instantly recognize him and come to the same conclusions as me."

And this "A visual manifestation is not the only possibility. There are four other senses with which to perceive the presence of a spirit. Banshees wail, but are not always seen. And how is a poltergeist able to move and lift objects without any sort of corporeality?" is also weak. Poltergeist is not invisible corporeal spirit that moves objects (it could be caught if it were), it is incorporeal spirit that moves object with telekinesy (or is partialy corporeal, but defenitely not comletely as your invisible man). Face it, although some ghosts and spirits can be partialy coreporeal (although most are not), completely corporeal spirit is oxymoron.
Edited by ☠ kony83 [⊊] on 7/30/10 at 11:20:36 pm

Rule #1: Don't question the validity of the Ghostbusters. Ever. You're undermining the spirit of my eccentricity. Once a parameter has been extablished, you can't go back and question it. The whole point of this thread is the Ghostbusters, so if you invalidate that, then it's basically the same thing as ignoring the original post. And since you were trying to logic my original post into submission, it really doesn't work to ignore it.

I'm sorry I didn't correct you sooner, but I didn't actually say anywhere that he would be completely corporeal or remain corporeal at all times. You just sort of assumed that at some point. Most likely when you confused him with the literary Invisible Man.

Spirits are often said to be able to become corporeal for their own purposes. This spirit's purpose was apparently to sleep in your bed, so he became corporeal and climbed on in.

Furthermore, if there's an invisible man in your bed, you're not going to be worrying so much about whether or not anyone's heard of it before. He's right there. You have just become the originator of folklore because he's right there.

PS Ghostbusters is pop culture, and it wasn't just one movie, it was two movies and a tv series.

I'm sorry but, regardless of the score, you just lost.

Once the joke has been started you have to run with it. That's where your whole "no one's ever heard of it, but I expect people to recognize it" argument falls to pieces. Of course I expect people to immediately recognize it. That's what the joke was in the first place.

The first rule of internet trolling and trying to invalidate a joke is that you can never acknowledge the existence of the joke. It's kind of like Fight Club (crap) and very much akin to the fourth wall in acting. When you are a troll, you are an actor. It's for your own entertainment and the entertainment of anyone that can appreciate it. You must always stay in character, lest your victim discover the ruse and spoil your fun. So breaking the fourth wall and acknowledging the joke shatters the illusion and ruins the joke altogether.

So I think that's a Ring Out, a TKO. You lose the thread because you broke character.

I must say though, that was well fought and up until the last post, your troll impression was very good.
Edited by Hymen [⊊] on 7/31/10 at 12:05:54 am

Sure, I will start a thread with vague reference to obscure czech movie no one here even heard of and expect everyone to get it and argue that something I am referencing to is completely different than everyone thinks (like invisible man known only from theme song is completely different than invisible man everyone knows like you did with questionable proofs) and win the following argument

Oh, and internet trolls do not give up just because logic is not on their side
Edited by ☠ kony83 [⊊] on 7/31/10 at 1:43:11 am

It wasn't that logic wasn't on your side, (logic actually was on your side, that was part of the problem) you acknowledged the joke. You broke the first rule of trolling.
Edited by Hymen [⊊] on 7/31/10 at 10:58:33 am

And since when do internet trolls follow rules?

All officially certified internet trolls must follow the rules given in the handbook handed out at the seminar. If they don't, then the internet police will take away their license.

Cyber-police*